A couple bargain hones

verndahl

AKA tintin
picked these up this summer at flea markets and garage sales for a dollar a piece. The one on the left i believe to be a Thuri and not sure about the other. The "Thuri" makes a shaveable edge some where around a 8k i think, and the other a has a slightly coarser feel when honing but still between a 6 to 8. I haven't had much experience with natural hones so any tips on getting the most out of them would be great.
The interesting thing about the 'thuri" is that the good side seemed to still have saw marks on it. Did they sell the rough like that ?
Also, I have a green Escher that i've been using, but i can't seem to get a edge that passes the HHT with it unless I use my Nani 12k in combination with it. I that normal for a natural or is there something else i should be doing to get more out of it?
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RezDog

Member
A couple of thoughts. They could be any slate. There is tons of slate all over the world. At around an 8K level I would suspect not a thuri. Hanging hair tests are a difficult one because we all have different hair, and it changes as we age. With my hair it is very difficult to get a good hanging hair test. I can pass it on a very well refined 8K edge, but it’s also in part how I hold the hair and razor. Depending on what I do with the razor after that it may improve or stay the same. I have quit using that test and rely mainly on my loupe to judge my edge until I get to the shave test. That a blade shaves well for me is the only really important test for my honing.
 

verndahl

AKA tintin
I was under the impression that a blue Thuri was in the 8 to 10k range? It was softer to lap than the other and gave a very dark slurry. it also matches the color the blue side of my blue/green combo (which i haven't honed with because of the label being on that side). It gave a pretty good shave as by itself. either way it is still a usable hone.
Don't burst my bubble ! :)
 

Bruno

Administrator
Staff member
I cannot speak on green eschers. Never had one. However hht relies on toothy-ness of the edge.
I know that that is an issue with coticule edges as well.
So I would not read too much into the HHT test when comparing natural stones and synthetic stones.

I do like flea market hone finds simply because they're a good way to turn 1$ into 100$ sometimes :)
 

verndahl

AKA tintin
I might add that the grit rating i gave is just my estimate which i wouldn't take too much stock in as i'm a poor judge of it. People rave about coticule edges and i've never even been able to even get a shaving edge off of one.'
That's good to know about the toothy-ness of the edge as my experience is limited to the Naniwas.
Got any tips about getting more out of a Thuri?
 

Bruno

Administrator
Staff member
I don't like coticules. I like the predictability and consistency of synthetics
 

RezDog

Member
When honing with slates, I often like to used a very light slurry and dilute to water. Some of the slates I have are very slow and require a lot of laps compared to synthetics. I prefer to not go too high in the synthetics before going to a natural. An 8 or 10K is usually as far as I go. I find edges to my preference from old Sheffield razors if I go to the 8K and then 100 laps on a slate to finish. Light slurry, as in milky ish to clear water. My Escher is probably my fastest true slate. I have a Goldfische that I need to spend some time with.
 

Gasman

Show me that again!
I found the Dark Blue Thuri to give a very keen edge, but not much on smooth that you would get from a Y/G. And I've been told they are not as fine. I'm not too sure about that. I've been playing with the Thuri's lately. Getting some nice edges with a level of smooth. But what I'm finding is too much smooth and you loose keen.
I'm with Rez on the Slates. I finish on the slightest slurry. Next to CW. I found CW would be too keen. Slurry makes for more control of what you are doing IMO.

Coties Suck!

Synthetics are just consistent. Hard to beat them but I keep trying.
Just had to put my 2 cents in. I haven't been around much lately. Glad to see the group is still going strong!
 

Bruno

Administrator
Staff member
I haven't been around much lately. Glad to see the group is still going strong!
I am just happy that there is still a bunch of people who like the idea of having a place where a group of friends can hang out to talk shop about razor making and maintenance.

I would say that as a 'community forum' this place is not the biggest success but then the forge section of srp is pretty much dead too.

Imo the big razor hype has moved on to something else and razor making was always a niche to begin with. Still, i love having this place as a shaving politics free zone where people can chat about workshop stuff. Growing big and high traffic numbers has never been a goal.
 

32t

Member
I have found that things that are easy are the biggest secrets.

I have found that the sharing here is because there is much learning and practice needed.

More of an attitude that if by chance you are committed and if by chance you are able to beat me I will be long dead.

I will share and practice on!
 

Bruno

Administrator
Staff member
Most things including making razors are not that difficult. Most of the time required to do so is just to learn what mistakes not to make on a grinder.
 
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