I bought a power hammer!!!

Discussion in 'The Forge' started by Bruno, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. 32t

    32t Member

    I get into more trouble with my neighbors in the country because of loud noises than the ones in the city.
     
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  2. Gasman

    Gasman Show me that again!

    Well, If you would quit firing off the Canon 32t.
     
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  3. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe you didn't have so much space where you could make noise :D

    In any case I had a chat with my neighbor today and I explained that I appreciated her telling us when it's a nuisance and she told me she had no proble with me using the hammer. I think we both understand the unspoken rules to keep each other happy. They don't mind me using the machine as long as I take care not to be an ass about when I use it.
     
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  4. 32t

    32t Member

    I have 35 acres and two neighbors that have built their houses on top of the hill above me. They are the type of city people that build a place in the country and complain if the neighbor farmer spreads pig manure on his fields.

    I am thinking about building a forge there this summer. No electricity within 1/4 mile and the creek isn't large enough for a water wheel so a power hammer would be hard to do! :D
     
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  5. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    You can run it from a generator. And then put them behind a solid wall so that the wall acts as a reflector for the noise from both in the direction of your neighbors :p
     
  6. RezDog

    RezDog Member

    There is different ways of building fences as well so they scatter the noise as opposed to reflecting it as well. I am no expert on the subject but I am certain the internet knows all the details.
    At a seasonal place a genset is often much cheaper than a hydro line running in. Off grid living can be fun and we are just coming around to having great options in the market place.
     
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  7. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    I prepared several billets today. When you have a power hammer at your disposal, you want to make efficient use of the forge. There is really no point in working on a single billet because you hammer it out in 10 minutes, but you need a significant amount of fuel and time to get the forge ready at welding heat.

    So regardless of what I am actually working on, I plan to have stacked billets prepared so that every time I have the forge at welding heat, I can weld and draw them all and build up a stock of damascus.

    Today I made 6 stacks. Top to bottom: The next step in the meteorite damascus project. The 3 bigger billets are 9 layers of O2 and 15N20. And the bottom ones are the ones I made last time. That's 4 times 7 or 9 layers.

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  8. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    Just discovered that one of my fb friends lives close to me and has a 150 pound hammer. I asked him if he was open to me using it sometime for full ingots that are too big for my hammer.

    He was ok with that so it's nice that now i also have the option to go someplace with ingots that are simply too big for me
     
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  9. RezDog

    RezDog Member

    Joe Calton has a homemade power hammer that makes me think is is possible that some day I could have one. Even mild steel is crazy expensive here because of freight costs.
     
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  10. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    There are many ways to make a powerhammer. It's something I was thinking of but then this one landed in my lap, figuratively :) for less money than the parts for a homemade one would have cost.

    Yesterday afternoon I had some more time and I forged down the previous 2 billets again, 4 times 7 layers => 2 times 28 layers.
    And then I forged the re-stacked meteorite billet into a 2 foot bar with 9 layers.

    My neighbors will be gone during the weekend so I will probably restack the meteorite billet, clean up the other 2 bars and then process those again.

    I also prepared 8 more new stacks of 9 layers for when I have the opportunity to forge them.
     
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  11. Victor Creazzi

    Victor Creazzi New Member

    Do you do anything with your pre assembled billets to keep them from oxidizing? This is where I've heard of many using kerosene or diesel.
     
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  12. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    Not particularly. I don't have issues with humidity where I live, so if I clean up those bars before assembling the billet, they will stay good.
    What may help though, is that I put those layers in a vise that I really squeeze down tightly at the end that I am welding. Then I flip it, tighten it up again, and weld again. Those layers are so tight together that not even a piece of paper would slide between. I probably shouldn't be having those billets lying around for years, but so far I haven't had problems with oxidation if it's only a month or 2.

    I know some people use kerosene to deal with that, and it's probably one of those things of which the impact depends on your circumstances.
     
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  13. geezer

    geezer Member

    Do you use borax between the layers as you build the stacks?
     
  14. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    No. The borax doesn't come into play until the billet becomes orange-ish. Then I sprinkle it on top to let it melt, and put the billet back in the fire until it is yellow and the borax comes bubbling out from in between the layers.
     
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  15. geezer

    geezer Member

    Thank you!
     
  16. paul76

    paul76 Member

    Not having humidity to contend with would be nice. Here in Saint Louis the only time there isn’t is in winter and even then there’s quite a bit at times. I have to keep my tools oiled fairly often to keep them from rusting.
     
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  17. Gasman

    Gasman Show me that again!

    I lived in st. Charles. Down the road from St. Louis. I know of that humidity personnally. Dont know how i delt with it back then.
     
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  18. Robbie d

    Robbie d New Member

    it looks a lot like melted butter. Not quite the same aroma though.
     
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  19. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    I know people are talking about forging without flux. However I do like flux for 2 reasons. First, it makes it easier to not worry about oxidation. And second, it helps as a temperature indicator. If you see it bubbling from between the layers, and if it is 'smoking' you know for certain that the entire billet is at welding heat.
     
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  20. Bruno

    Bruno Administrator Staff Member

    My youngest daughter pimped my hammer 'chomp'. It has googly eyes and a cool paint job!

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