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32t
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I have to work and/or practice my communication skills some more.
Here I was thinking it was a good deal to get bone in pork loin for $1.49 USD a pound but there I would have have to buy about 42 pounds to get that price.
Loins that I think are similar to what you pictures I saw at around $2.99 a pound and at sizes similar to yours.
How many Euros a pound is pork there?
I would have to work for about or little over 2 hours to buy the 42 pounds.
Here I was thinking it was a good deal to get bone in pork loin for $1.49 USD a pound but there I would have have to buy about 42 pounds to get that price.
Loins that I think are similar to what you pictures I saw at around $2.99 a pound and at sizes similar to yours.
How many Euros a pound is pork there?
I would have to work for about or little over 2 hours to buy the 42 pounds.
Ah. This was close to 24 euros worth of meat. Just under 10 euro per pound. Yeah, I know, that is quite expensive.
This comes from a quality butcher shop. I think in the supermarket, the cuts are usually a bit cheaper (and smaller) at about 8 euro per pound.
Meat is generally more expensive in Europe than in the US. Part of the reason is that meat farming is simply more expensive. There are environmental factors at play (like having less land) but also much higher standards for animal welfare. It's one of the reasons the EU doesn't import beef or chicken from the US. The EU has much stricter rules about growth hormones and antibiotics, and things like how animals are treated.
Without going into the politics of the situation, I guess it's not unexpected that if you put more limits and requirements on meat, someone (the customer) is paying the difference.
A standard chicken double-breast would cost around 3 to 5 euros depending on weight.
This comes from a quality butcher shop. I think in the supermarket, the cuts are usually a bit cheaper (and smaller) at about 8 euro per pound.
Meat is generally more expensive in Europe than in the US. Part of the reason is that meat farming is simply more expensive. There are environmental factors at play (like having less land) but also much higher standards for animal welfare. It's one of the reasons the EU doesn't import beef or chicken from the US. The EU has much stricter rules about growth hormones and antibiotics, and things like how animals are treated.
Without going into the politics of the situation, I guess it's not unexpected that if you put more limits and requirements on meat, someone (the customer) is paying the difference.
A standard chicken double-breast would cost around 3 to 5 euros depending on weight.
In my professional observation, the price of food translates very readily into a much healthier population. The tendency toward smaller refrigerators at home means shopping more often, less food waste, more cooking at home because restaurants are also more expensive and so on.
When I was heavier my European acquaintances were also less restrained pointing out that health risk, so the social control aspect is also a factor.
In the US, lesser quality food is often much less expensive. But then food is a form of governmental-social control. That's why sugar is the most addictive substance on the planet.
Two Rabbit Holes to avoid: "the history of sugar" and "one year old MacDonald's hamburger"
When I was heavier my European acquaintances were also less restrained pointing out that health risk, so the social control aspect is also a factor.
In the US, lesser quality food is often much less expensive. But then food is a form of governmental-social control. That's why sugar is the most addictive substance on the planet.
Two Rabbit Holes to avoid: "the history of sugar" and "one year old MacDonald's hamburger"
32t
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Does the price of food being more expensive mean you are going to eat less and be skinny?
I agree in the US if they keep the price of food and gas cheap most people won't bitch. Or at least as bad.
I disagree with the smaller frig/freezer idea. If I can do 10 lbs of leak butter in the spring it keeps me going for the next year. put that butter on some new york strip that I can get for $5.99 a lb. And that is a heck of a lot cheaper and healthier than eating at Mac and D's.
For me salt is a big one and with having a refrigerator I can lower the salt content and still be able to preserve it.
Salt adds so much flavor! You can't ignore it completely!
I am going to go now and enjoy a smoked pickled egg that we made recently............... [lower salt!]
I agree in the US if they keep the price of food and gas cheap most people won't bitch. Or at least as bad.
I disagree with the smaller frig/freezer idea. If I can do 10 lbs of leak butter in the spring it keeps me going for the next year. put that butter on some new york strip that I can get for $5.99 a lb. And that is a heck of a lot cheaper and healthier than eating at Mac and D's.
For me salt is a big one and with having a refrigerator I can lower the salt content and still be able to preserve it.
Salt adds so much flavor! You can't ignore it completely!
I am going to go now and enjoy a smoked pickled egg that we made recently............... [lower salt!]
RezDog
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I think eating healthy is important. I also think that when inexpensive unhealthy options are cheaper and more available than healthy food it becomes the diet. It is a very complex conversation. Urban versus rural is another part of the equation. Few people that live in the city have easy access to things like farm eggs, grass fed beef, organic produce. Super easy access to MacDonalds and a ton of fast foods and beverages full of height salt, bad fat and high fructose corn syrup. i have heard, and can’t quote a source, that many countries have banned high fructose corn syrup. Most places I have traveled, the soft drinks are made with cane sugar. It is however still sugar, and if you consume enough dead calories, no matter the source, it’s bad for your health. For a very long time people have said that city folk don’t get nearly enough fibre in their diet to be healthy.
No doubt it is a contributing factor.
prices are higher too because quality is higher, because food standards are fairly strict.
For example, eggs are more expensive than in the US. That is because the law demands higher animal welfare standards. In turn, we don't use chemicals to disinfect eggs before packing them. this in turn keeps the protective layer on the outside of the egg intact. This in turn means that eggs can be stored at room temperature for lengthy periods, and we don't have any concern about eating raw egg in e.g. our deserts without having to buy pasteurized eggwhite etc. Raw egg is used quite a lot.
One of the arguments in the Brexit negotiations is the fear that the UK will drop standards and import chlorinated chicken from the US. The problem isn't so much the chlorination itself, which is done in the EU with e.g. lettuce. The problem is that US chicken relies on chlorination to keep it edible until consumption, whereas EU chicken relies on the animals being in good health from the moment they hatch to the moment they land on your plate.
So obviously, we eat less. When we go eat in the diner at Charlie's place, I cannot get over the fact that my royal breakfast costs less than 10$. In Belgium that would be a 18 euro breakfast at least. Financial reality dictates that we limit portion sizes.
The other thing is that by law, country of original and every single additive needs to be on the label, which in turn makes company be careful with additives. So there's a lot less things in our food than might have adverse effects.
32t
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7 euros is about what good butcher shop bacon is around here.
A bunch of coworkers have some special places they go to but I haven't tried them.
Belly has been relatively hard to get recently and cost about $3.99 USD a pound last time my wife bought it.
My last ;batch was from a reject of an american slaughter house. If they have something wrong like a broken leg with the pig the slaughter house will refuse it. Growing up on a farm I have some contacts for such rejects. The meat was free to me.
I almost bought some bacon last week. $30 for 15 Lbs. That is probably similar to what the Star Diner served.
Many times I will get ends and pieces in that price range.
A bunch of coworkers have some special places they go to but I haven't tried them.
Belly has been relatively hard to get recently and cost about $3.99 USD a pound last time my wife bought it.
My last ;batch was from a reject of an american slaughter house. If they have something wrong like a broken leg with the pig the slaughter house will refuse it. Growing up on a farm I have some contacts for such rejects. The meat was free to me.
I almost bought some bacon last week. $30 for 15 Lbs. That is probably similar to what the Star Diner served.
Many times I will get ends and pieces in that price range.
