That could have ended badly

Bruno

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Today it was 'honey are you going to install the lighting in the new kitchen' day. I've been dreading this job for a long time. See the problem is that when we were putting in the false ceiling, I had a plan indicating where the lights would be, more or less.

So I prepared all cabling, left the ends long enough, and then stuffed it underneath the plasterboard. The plasterboard is mounted to the ceiling with a metal frame that is spaced only 2 feet in both directions. All of that is invisible because of the plaster that went over the board. To add to the complexity, the frame is mounted like you'd expect, with 90 degree angles from the walls. However, the kitchen furniture, and thus the lights, are are a 15 degree angle.

To further complicate the job, we didn't put the furniture exactly as indicated by the plan, because the room and the plan didn't match 100%. Everything is about a foot off compared to the plan. No big deal. However...

First I drilled the 6 holes you see. And despite a lot of rummaging around, I couldn't find ANY of those 6 cables where they were supposed to be. And with only 4" clearing between the false ceiling and the real one, there is not much room to work in. Of and did I mention the ceiling is about 14' high? Now, eventually I was able to use my phone as a sort of periscope in one hole, and then used an improvised hook through the other hole to pull back 2 cables. I decided to forget about the others and simply use those 2 to hook up some new improvised cabling. There was a lot of cursing and cussing involved.

Anywho... this is a long winded preamble to get to the point. You see the ladder on top of the kitchen block. I was standing on that to drill the holes with the big circular saw drill thingy (no idea what you'd call it in the US). I had put it on the top step while I was doing something else, and then forgot it was there.

A couple minutes later I took the ladder by the feet in order to move it, when the shit hit the fan. Some junk fell off the ladder and my first thought was 'shit, there was stuff on top'. And then I feel a big weight shifting, and then I REALLY think 'oh... SHIT'. I see the drill falling towards the (expensive) granite counter top. I know the drill has carbide teeth, weighs about 3 pounds, and is certain to slam a big chuck out of the middle of the top. And as this scenario is playing out, I am already thinking that my life is about to get really, really bad.

So with the ladder still in both hands, I kinda lunge forward, and somehow grab the falling drill between my elbow and my armpit, stopping it about a handspan from impact. I have NO idea how on earth I was able to do that. Had that drill hit the top, I'd probably be sleeping on the couch for the next couple of years.

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RezDog

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Not where I thought the story was going, and it was an amazing catch. There should be a prize for that one for sure. I have had a few mishaps here and there with similar jobs and none as disastrous as chipping a granite counter top. I have repaired a few granite chips with pigment and polyester. I guess it is more of I hid the damage than repaired it.
:)
 

paul76

Member
What a catch! I’m sure glad it must have fallen drill first, the other way could have been very bad. Glad your ok and not confined to the couch for years.
 

paul76

Member
When my quartz qountertop had been chipped I was able to find the chip and it was put back in with super glue sanded with high grit diamond paper and polished. Not quite perfect but you have to know where it is to find it.
 

Gasman

Show me that again!
Yes, the main thing was not getting hurt. Nice catch and a great save. Now get you a bigger ladder and a tool belt so this dont happen again.
 

Bruno

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Staff member
Yes, the main thing was not getting hurt. Nice catch and a great save. Now get you a bigger ladder and a tool belt so this dont happen again.
Actually, I have a big enough ladder. The problem was the holes were located above the counter top and the big ladder couldn't get close enough to work safely.
 

Bruno

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Unrelated, but today the stone cutters came to retrieve the top because it had stripes in the polish, and then they made things progressively worse over 2 visits. The kitchen guys told us they would have everything they needed to disconenct the power sockets and the sink etc.

So of course my wife calls me at work to ask me if I have needle nose pliers somewhere because the guys can't get to the connectors connecting the supply cable to the appliance cable. That connection was in the base of the block, and the access was only like a square inch or so and they couldn't get them out properly.

And as my wife is looking through my toolbox, I am thinking they're missing the obvious. And just when I ask my wife: "well, sure they can pry open the connectors like that, but have they considered how the hell we are going to get them back in and lock them?" I hear them yell " it's ok, we got it"

I get my wife on the phone and ask her about the connectors and she doesn't get what I mean. I lose my patience with her and tell her to check if she can get the connectors out, she loses her patience with me as she doesn't understand what I mean. At that point I am getting so angry that I drive back home because I am so worked up that if I have to wait half a day, I'm going to rip someone a new one.

So I arrive home, and my first impression is that I'm fucked. As I thought, they pried the connectors loose, and now those connectors are inside the base, almost impossible to get at, and stuck. At that point I am so angry I can't even explain why I am upset and I was glad that the guys had already left because at that point I am unhappy and ready to share my pain, to say it nicely. Now, using my needle nose pliers and a lot of patience, I managed to get them out and tol my wife I am going to install a small junction box in the block to fix this problem the way it should have been fixed the first time.
 

Bruno

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Meanwhile my wife also called to the kitchen guys to inform them that our brand new oven had short circuited. Now, I realize fully well that they cannot be blamed for that. It's a good machine. Just bad luck and stupid coincidence.

My called to the rep who has been dealing with all the hassle of the problem with the stone, and we even got a phone call from the CEO to personally apologize because things had gotten so fucked up by now. And that was before this thing with the oven.

So my wife called them and used her maiden name, and the rep told her she couldn't find my wife and asked if the kitchen was perhaps delivered under a different name. My wife then said 'Oh, yes it's van Dooren'.

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It stayed quiet for a couple of seconds and then the rep said 'van Dooren...... you mean... at such and such addres?' My wife says yes, that's us. Then a couple more seconds and then 'oh... ...'
And then a bit later ' I must say you have been really, really understanding so far'.

As my wife told me this story when I got home, I was laughing hysterically. Really, tears rolling from my eyes. I realize fully well that the things that have been going wrong, are not their fault. I mean they are responsible, but they have not been the party doing the fucking up, and they have been really good in owning up to their responsibility so I am not mad at them.

I just wish I could have been a fly on the wall when that woman was talking to my wife and her penny dropped :D
 

Victor Creazzi

King of Bondo
My favorite contractor story, heard on the radio from a comedian. I may have repeated this in Texas as I tell it often.

Contractor; I've got all the old shingles torn off of your roof, I'll be back next Wednesday to put the new ones on.

Client; What if it rains?

Contractor; That will be OK, I've got an inside job on the other side of town that I can go to.

Client; My house will be ruined!

Contractor; I can't control the weather.

At a friends house for dinner the discussion meandered to how stressful remodeling a house is on a marriage. My friend proudly stated, in the presence of his wife. "That's why I don't do any work on the house, I don't want to risk my marriage."
 

Bruno

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Staff member
Not trying to cause you trouble, but won't that leave hot, unterminated , leads in the ceiling?
Technically, yes. But the ends were not stripped. They are lying on top of the plasterboard, as is.
I concede it's less than ideal. And if I had had more time (it was literally a midnight job, the day before the plaster was put up) I would have pre-terminated them to be absolutely sure it would be ok.

But as it is, they are not exposed, dry, inaccessible, and about 4 yards from the floor.
 

paul76

Member
One of these could help you find where they are at in the ceiling to possibly pull them to a hole to either use them or terminate them. I’m not sure if they will pick up the voltage through the plasterboard. I do have one and could try and see if it will. I’ll bring it home from work and try.
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32t

Active Member
One of these could help you find where they are at in the ceiling to possibly pull them to a hole to either use them or terminate them. I’m not sure if they will pick up the voltage through the plasterboard. I do have one and could try and see if it will. I’ll bring it home from work and try.View attachment 400
Good idea but I don't think that it would work through plaster. If you drag it down an extension cord it will tell when the wires twist in the cord.
 

paul76

Member
The one I have doesn’t pick them up very well inside the walls it’s a little hit or miss. It seems to pick up the ones that were ran after the walls were built but not the ones that were put in when the house was built. So it is probably due to the distance from the outside of the drywall but the stud sensor that also detects electric picks them up reliably.
 
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